1948 Suriname
1963 Suriname
Granted my MULO Diploma.
1963–2015 Suriname
I've been creating and providing various courses / activities with and for children and seniors.
1971 Suriname
Diploma in costume designe and dressmaking.
1980 Amsterdam
Arrived in the Netherlands.
1980 Amsterdam
Worked as a dressmaker while gaining my teachers Diploma.
1981 Amsterdam
Worked as an administrator until my retirement.
2006 Amsterdam
Crowned with the title of 'Oma.'
Please note: all conversations will be assigned randomly


Ondergronds is named for those exceptional conversations below the surface.

While travelling through Amsterdam on a daily basis, we pass by hundreds of strangers and rarely get a chance to connect. Ondergronds allows you to have a real conversation with one of those strangers – perhaps the connection will last, perhaps it may inspire other conversations on your daily travels.

About the team:

Julien Thomas developed urban interventions and creative civic engagement strategies in Vancouver, and graduated from the Sandberg Instituut in 2016.

Webdesign: Fabian Hijlkema

Photography: Coco Plooijer

Ondergronds is an initiative of the Knowledge Mile Coalition, a community of knowledge institutions, companies, organisations and residents working together along the Wibautstraat and Wesperstraat from Amstelplein to Nieuwmarkt.


Do you have questions, want to participate, or want to set up an Ondergronds project in your city? Feel free to contact us.


We are

  • Gemeente Amsterdam

  • Knowledge Mile Coalition

  • Amsterdam Boiling

  • GVB

  • Humans of Amsterdam